transcripts : January 27, 2003
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:04:53 PM)
has anyone given any thought to what we would say on the billboard/
lofly (Jan 27, 2003 10:04:59 PM)
not I
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:05:00 PM)
I guess the skymiles changes touched a lot of folks
paradocs (Jan 27, 2003 10:05:18 PM)
do we have enough money?
melvin (Jan 27, 2003 10:05:23 PM)
it sure did
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:05:32 PM)
eyeflydoc has the tally
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:05:45 PM)
whatever we say...has to be polite///few words and message must hit hard
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:06:01 PM)
~$2250 was the last count...
lofly (Jan 27, 2003 10:06:11 PM)
this type of message is very difficult to do
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:06:17 PM)
how much do we need
paradocs (Jan 27, 2003 10:06:21 PM)
I would say we need to raise more$
lofly (Jan 27, 2003 10:06:23 PM)
for that reason Milky
FrequencyFlyer (Jan 27, 2003 10:06:29 PM)
more than 2250
I LOVE EWR (Jan 27, 2003 10:06:51 PM)
i will give $25.00 were do i send it to?
ak (Jan 27, 2003 10:06:54 PM)
i am willing to contribute $100
lofly (Jan 27, 2003 10:07:00 PM)
I thought I saw something about near $3000
paradocs (Jan 27, 2003 10:07:02 PM)
I'm sure any new pledges are needed
FrequencyFlyer (Jan 27, 2003 10:07:03 PM)
a small bus stop ad is $500/month for 6 months upfront, plus $2000 for "design"
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:07:06 PM)
im in for 100
ConcordeBoy (Jan 27, 2003 10:07:08 PM)
what's the subject... Billboard?
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:07:27 PM)
yep that is the theme for the evening: Billboard
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:08:01 PM)
eyefly..how much in pledges
docdeb (Jan 27, 2003 10:08:10 PM)
Hi all..sorry so late to enter! Count me in...stocks/salary down but THIS is imp't.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:08:26 PM)
Same as posted
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:08:47 PM)
how much do we need
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:08:47 PM)
and of course that's on a scrap of paper buried on my desk
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:09:20 PM)
I found a company that does mobile billboards
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:09:26 PM)
the owner is a PM
ConcordeBoy (Jan 27, 2003 10:09:28 PM)
Anyone think we can get DL officially up in here for a live chat? That's something I'd truly be interested in working with
paradocs (Jan 27, 2003 10:09:28 PM)
how much
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:09:32 PM)
and was quite pissed
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:09:33 PM)
wow!
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:09:40 PM)
and willing to work with us
cwpfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:09:41 PM)
lucky break
GG (Jan 27, 2003 10:09:44 PM)
next!
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:09:48 PM)
maybe he could do it pro bono
paradocs (Jan 27, 2003 10:09:55 PM)
way to go Doc
FrequencyFlyer (Jan 27, 2003 10:09:55 PM)
good job EyeFly
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 10:10:00 PM)
We had a live chat with Delta... all spin
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:10:03 PM)
the normal price is about $1200 to $1800 for design
Engines turn (Jan 27, 2003 10:10:06 PM)
you get what you pay for... learned that the hard way with DL
businesstraveler (Jan 27, 2003 10:10:08 PM)
Does the mobile sign company have a web site?
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:10:23 PM)
and $500 to $850 a day
ConcordeBoy (Jan 27, 2003 10:10:27 PM)
when was it Lex?
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:10:30 PM)
they do
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:10:38 PM)
will they keep driving past ATL
ConcordeBoy (Jan 27, 2003 10:10:39 PM)
after the SM changes?
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:10:46 PM)
I'll go retrive the info we need
obscure2k (Jan 27, 2003 10:10:57 PM)
bear with me, I'm new to chatboards and counting on one of my kids.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:10:58 PM)
he said no problem with going around hartsfield
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:11:03 PM)
for as long as we want
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:11:19 PM)
at 1800 + 850 We can do it for a max of 1-2 days with current pledges...
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:11:25 PM)
I'll be back in a sec with the info
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 10:11:29 PM)
when kevin Pinto was new on the job... after sm changes, yeah
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:11:38 PM)
that was before the pissed PM discount
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:11:41 PM)
could we get design costs down?
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:11:45 PM)
eyefly--are you talking about the driving billboard
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:11:50 PM)
I image we could
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:11:52 PM)
ye
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:11:57 PM)
yep - driving
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:12:03 PM)
will the cops let it in
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:12:08 PM)
we may do better with radio commercials on an all news station. airtime isn't as costly.
Seiple (Jan 27, 2003 10:12:17 PM)
I'm flying AirTran to the billboard unveiling.
Seiple (Jan 27, 2003 10:12:19 PM)
Just tell me when.
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:12:26 PM)
we need more than 2 days in public
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:12:28 PM)
good one seiple
Seiple (Jan 27, 2003 10:12:29 PM)
And tell me where to send my money.
Seiple (Jan 27, 2003 10:12:38 PM)
Because I want to staple my Silver Medallion card to it.
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:12:48 PM)
i would think that if we pay for this, the news would pick it up
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:12:53 PM)
bruce are you still having trouble?
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:12:54 PM)
we could set up an account where people paypal their pledges
I LOVE EWR (Jan 27, 2003 10:13:03 PM)
does anyone have contacts with the news outlets in ATL?
Seiple (Jan 27, 2003 10:13:05 PM)
You're gonna lose a bunch in Paypal fees too though
Seiple (Jan 27, 2003 10:13:09 PM)
Especially on large transactions.
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:13:10 PM)
press releases in advance would help
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:13:15 PM)
2-3% not a big deal
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:13:17 PM)
Yes, indeed! Had to reboot. No understanding of this!!!
paradocs (Jan 27, 2003 10:13:17 PM)
Let me get this straight, EyeFlyDoc: that's after the discount?
avek00 (Jan 27, 2003 10:13:23 PM)
I must admit that i am impressed by the dedication of DLers to the cause.
obscure2k (Jan 27, 2003 10:13:25 PM)
I don't trust driving billboards, as I am not interested in LaP Dances.
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:13:33 PM)
anyone here in marketing or pr
ak (Jan 27, 2003 10:13:44 PM)
how about an ad in the WSJ
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:13:50 PM)
anyone
lofly (Jan 27, 2003 10:13:52 PM)
what is the purpose of the mobile AD?????
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:13:56 PM)
WSJ may be really expensive
Seiple (Jan 27, 2003 10:13:58 PM)
"From the Passengers of Delta Air Lines"
Engines turn (Jan 27, 2003 10:13:59 PM)
I think Seiple's on to something... remember the woman who wore a dress of Amex platinum cards to the Oscars?
melvin (Jan 27, 2003 10:14:01 PM)
i gather this billbaord will be the sole purpose to highlight the recent sm changes?
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:14:02 PM)
Radio ads are pretty cheap in medium-sized markets.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:14:18 PM)
OK
Seiple (Jan 27, 2003 10:14:20 PM)
Staple your card to the billboard and say "bite me Delta"
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:14:21 PM)
here is the info
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:14:24 PM)
http://www.gbtruck.com/
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:14:24 PM)
wsb would be the one in atl
obscure2k (Jan 27, 2003 10:14:25 PM)
Mea-culpa--former PR person--
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:14:32 PM)
It has to be targetted at Business or FFs
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:14:32 PM)
And just placing a radio ad would generate press coverage.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:14:32 PM)
is the site for the mobile bbs
businesstraveler (Jan 27, 2003 10:14:34 PM)
Presumes radio station will run them...
Seiple (Jan 27, 2003 10:14:36 PM)
Will Wes Sarginson be there?
Seiple (Jan 27, 2003 10:14:38 PM)
He's cool
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:14:46 PM)
and we have about $2400
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:14:48 PM)
Why not?
Seiple (Jan 27, 2003 10:14:55 PM)
What about Monica Kaufman?
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:15:28 PM)
kimmer would have a blast with this
FrequencyFlyer (Jan 27, 2003 10:15:38 PM)
Monica costs more than $2400
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:15:54 PM)
who are these folks ?
FrequencyFlyer (Jan 27, 2003 10:16:03 PM)
Kimmer would be fun, but he would paint us as elitists
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:16:12 PM)
Correctly!!!
FrequencyFlyer (Jan 27, 2003 10:16:14 PM)
Kimmer = local radio personality
FrequencyFlyer (Jan 27, 2003 10:16:24 PM)
Monica = local TV personality
I LOVE EWR (Jan 27, 2003 10:16:25 PM)
BTW did anyone see this today http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2003/2003-01-28-delta.htm
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:16:32 PM)
could we compare days of exposure bb or radio
ConcordeBoy (Jan 27, 2003 10:16:56 PM)
i saw it EWR
ConcordeBoy (Jan 27, 2003 10:17:04 PM)
a basic review... but oversimplified for us
I LOVE EWR (Jan 27, 2003 10:17:07 PM)
yep
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:17:10 PM)
what about boortz or the guy that follows him with complaint show
I LOVE EWR (Jan 27, 2003 10:17:11 PM)
just wondering
I LOVE EWR (Jan 27, 2003 10:17:16 PM)
at least its getting some press
I LOVE EWR (Jan 27, 2003 10:17:21 PM)
even though its simple
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:17:24 PM)
clark howard
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:17:34 PM)
Interesting article. I had not seen it.
Engines turn (Jan 27, 2003 10:17:40 PM)
In NY drive time radio runs $500-1000 per minute, so I think ATL would run $300-600
LegalTender (Jan 27, 2003 10:17:53 PM)
bruce, what article?
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 10:17:58 PM)
Clark Howard wasn't interested last time
hfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:18:09 PM)
I made it
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:18:10 PM)
the only one I found was about 'song'
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:18:11 PM)
Just placing a few ads would generate press coverage, I guarantee.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:18:12 PM)
I guess the first question is what are we aiming at
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 10:18:26 PM)
hi hfly
lofly (Jan 27, 2003 10:18:27 PM)
what is the purpose
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:18:32 PM)
Bruce - radio ads?
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:18:37 PM)
Yes.
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:18:48 PM)
make a statement + generate media interest
bajamex (Jan 27, 2003 10:18:54 PM)
Why not sell miles to raise funds they will come after us and we get publicity
hfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:18:55 PM)
Do you guys want my "not posting on the board" take????
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:18:58 PM)
I imagine we would have to make the press aware that we were doing it
I LOVE EWR (Jan 27, 2003 10:19:02 PM)
why not go national? Usatoday? give the number of theVP in charge of Skymiles
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 10:19:02 PM)
how about AJC ad? quarter page in biz section -- anybody know what it costs?
GG (Jan 27, 2003 10:19:16 PM)
hfly, of course...
paradocs (Jan 27, 2003 10:19:19 PM)
Purpose: the hit on the Atlanta economy as Delta falls further
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:19:33 PM)
hi Art, long time
hfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:19:34 PM)
Since this has happened I have spoken with three senior people....
I LOVE EWR (Jan 27, 2003 10:19:39 PM)
what ever you guys decide give the number of someone high up on Delta
lofly (Jan 27, 2003 10:19:40 PM)
com' on papadoc
Art234 (Jan 27, 2003 10:19:42 PM)
Hi Rss--how are you?
hfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:19:49 PM)
One is leaving DL next month due to the cutbacks.....
peteropny (Jan 27, 2003 10:20:03 PM)
hello
Art234 (Jan 27, 2003 10:20:12 PM)
Does ANYONE at DL feel they might have made a mistake?
Dick Ginkowski (Jan 27, 2003 10:20:13 PM)
Sounds like they are on a self-destruct mode
hfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:20:22 PM)
The other two basically asked why it bothered me as I seem to be the type that benefits from these changes, but......
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:20:22 PM)
angry as hell & not going to take it anymore. Sound familar? :)
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:20:23 PM)
Apparently, voluntary departures are looking good to quite a few Deltans.
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:20:37 PM)
Something ending with "Call Patrice Miles at XXX-XXX-XXXX to let her know that you do not support there changes "
Art234 (Jan 27, 2003 10:20:39 PM)
I keep thinking of Bill Holden and Robert Shaw....
hfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:20:46 PM)
When I explained that the PM cuts were a bit much they agreed
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:20:49 PM)
can we get chris from the ticket to help?
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:21:04 PM)
I say give leo or Vicki's number
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:21:06 PM)
hfly, same here. The PM cuts are being reconsidered.
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:21:16 PM)
simple hard copy and give numbers
Art234 (Jan 27, 2003 10:21:18 PM)
Hello Bruce!!
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:21:23 PM)
Hi.
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:21:31 PM)
guys, don't forget about the GM's & FO's
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:21:33 PM)
art..all front line people are saying they hear rumors of mistake
Dick Ginkowski (Jan 27, 2003 10:21:37 PM)
It will be interesting to see if the CO/DL/NW defiance will be challenged by DOT or smaller aielines
hfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:21:39 PM)
You can also see from other areas that GM and PM are being pared away from FO
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:21:40 PM)
The WSJ advt would get the most publicity...
lofly (Jan 27, 2003 10:21:43 PM)
what is the purpose of giving those #s
sowalsky (Jan 27, 2003 10:21:46 PM)
i'd hope it was a mistake they'll acknowledge
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:21:50 PM)
Definitely. The more people we bring in, the more support we get.
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:21:55 PM)
If we can afford it, that may be a good idea
businesstraveler (Jan 27, 2003 10:21:58 PM)
If anyine happens to by a lawyer, I'd like to hear any legal issues or opinions
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:22:00 PM)
The questionis why are they taking so long to announce any retrenching
hfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:22:09 PM)
brb
Art234 (Jan 27, 2003 10:22:09 PM)
OK so US has the cockroach--what do we give the DL boneheads?
sowalsky (Jan 27, 2003 10:22:20 PM)
don't get any lawyers involved
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:22:27 PM)
agreed
sowalsky (Jan 27, 2003 10:22:29 PM)
the airlines always win ff vs. airline
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:22:34 PM)
I've spent 8 hours a day with lawyers for over 20 years. What's the concern? I can inquire tomorrow.
LegalTender (Jan 27, 2003 10:22:35 PM)
Retrench? They believe the industry will follow if they hold out.
Art234 (Jan 27, 2003 10:22:43 PM)
Doc, in their infinite arrogance, they may not believe they are wrong.
FrequencyFlyer (Jan 27, 2003 10:22:44 PM)
EyeFly: it hasn't been that long yet
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:22:44 PM)
pro bono
paradocs (Jan 27, 2003 10:22:47 PM)
Hi BNAboy
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:22:47 PM)
Not likely at this point
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:22:49 PM)
this has to be all medallion...not just pm or gm
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 10:22:51 PM)
the palmetto bug -- bigger than a cockroach
bnaboy (Jan 27, 2003 10:22:57 PM)
Hi Andrea
businesstraveler (Jan 27, 2003 10:22:57 PM)
With due respect, the person placing the ad should consider this
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:23:01 PM)
mikey, agreed
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:23:03 PM)
long enough for many of us to find other carriers
Art234 (Jan 27, 2003 10:23:05 PM)
I think it's the other way around--
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:23:24 PM)
how about toilet seat encrusted with ff cards
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:23:35 PM)
do we flush?
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:23:37 PM)
Maybe we can orgainize this into topics
sowalsky (Jan 27, 2003 10:23:43 PM)
gannet -- that would be fun
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:23:45 PM)
like what do we want to get first
sowalsky (Jan 27, 2003 10:23:45 PM)
but painful
melvin (Jan 27, 2003 10:23:46 PM)
good one gannet
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:23:47 PM)
Copy for ad
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:23:53 PM)
what do we want to accomplish
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:23:58 PM)
outlet for ad
Art234 (Jan 27, 2003 10:24:04 PM)
I never thought I'd say this but I am thinking of giving AA another shot if US goes down.
castle (Jan 27, 2003 10:24:04 PM)
DL skymiles, Here today gone in May!
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:24:06 PM)
attentionof the press
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:24:06 PM)
explain changes
LegalTender (Jan 27, 2003 10:24:14 PM)
I think the key is AJC, USA Today and perhaps CNN. DL hates bad vibes.
vasantn (Jan 27, 2003 10:24:16 PM)
OK -- got my AA logo on now!
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:24:18 PM)
I think we should run a radio ad asking people to contact us.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:24:28 PM)
but how do we reach them?
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:24:31 PM)
web site?
vasantn (Jan 27, 2003 10:24:31 PM)
CO, Bruce?
LegalTender (Jan 27, 2003 10:24:39 PM)
Russell Grantham at the AJC is doing a piece on laid-off employees and
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:24:41 PM)
WSJ is an excellent choice, so is Business Week
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:24:43 PM)
When we have a huge number iof people signed on to the cause, then we go to the print media.
Art234 (Jan 27, 2003 10:24:44 PM)
Bruce....CO?
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:24:44 PM)
simple ad would work
hfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:24:50 PM)
Guerrilla marketing, stickers put EVRYWHERE
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:24:52 PM)
i invited james pilcher from enquirer here tonite....hes a no show
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:25:03 PM)
question is how do we get enough funds
LegalTender (Jan 27, 2003 10:25:04 PM)
is also working on Concourse cutbacks at Hartsfield. Logically, he'd
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:25:05 PM)
I am checking WSJ.COM and can't find rates for a 1/2 page advt.
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 10:25:06 PM)
AJC would be cheaper than WSJ, right?
Art234 (Jan 27, 2003 10:25:07 PM)
Mikey--he could be lurking ;0
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:25:07 PM)
and enough people
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:25:13 PM)
Error, Art! I'll try to fix without getting cut off!
LegalTender (Jan 27, 2003 10:25:14 PM)
want to follow through with pax.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:25:20 PM)
Absolutely
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:25:28 PM)
most medallions are still obliviouos
hfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:25:30 PM)
WSJ half page appx. 35k!!!
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:25:31 PM)
hfly..that could work...plaster crcs elevators at airports
lofly (Jan 27, 2003 10:25:34 PM)
AJC and CNN are in ATL
Art234 (Jan 27, 2003 10:25:36 PM)
I thought maybe UA Bruce
FrequencyFlyer (Jan 27, 2003 10:25:38 PM)
what about ads inside ATL?
castle (Jan 27, 2003 10:25:39 PM)
Rssrsvp, can you post a synopsis of this on the board? I have to go.
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:25:42 PM)
How's this?
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:25:43 PM)
I looked into print
cwpfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:25:46 PM)
Agree w/ Bruce. I think drive time radio is a good idea.
hfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:25:46 PM)
Stickers, cheap and effective
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:25:47 PM)
but we would be arrested for littering
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:25:48 PM)
national stuff was mucho $$
Art234 (Jan 27, 2003 10:25:52 PM)
Yeah--that's better
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:25:57 PM)
I'll try with help from others
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:25:58 PM)
got to get word across to people who still dont know
Dick Ginkowski (Jan 27, 2003 10:25:59 PM)
Picket Leo's home?
Tolarian Wind (Jan 27, 2003 10:26:00 PM)
i got a voicemail from atlanta today
sowalsky (Jan 27, 2003 10:26:02 PM)
what about an ad to run after the state of the union?
sowalsky (Jan 27, 2003 10:26:06 PM)
radio?
hfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:26:07 PM)
maybe, but the film kids dont get busted
Tolarian Wind (Jan 27, 2003 10:26:08 PM)
havent had time to return the canned response
sowalsky (Jan 27, 2003 10:26:09 PM)
or tv?
sowalsky (Jan 27, 2003 10:26:17 PM)
:)
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:26:19 PM)
I still like the mobile billboard circling hartsflield
Art234 (Jan 27, 2003 10:26:20 PM)
So..does anyone know if Randy is still supportive of DL's moves?
LegalTender (Jan 27, 2003 10:26:32 PM)
not really.
Dick Ginkowski (Jan 27, 2003 10:26:36 PM)
I think he is playing both sides
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:26:36 PM)
eyefly---i agree
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:26:38 PM)
Radio is cheap, and we can encourage people to contact us (someone, obviously). Get more support that way.
bnaboy (Jan 27, 2003 10:26:39 PM)
From the piece in IF it would seem so
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:26:46 PM)
randy will have to stay neutral because of his magazine
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:26:48 PM)
Eye Fly, could we get formal proposal on mobile bb
hfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:26:55 PM)
Look every progem is cutting back or similar now, Randy can only fight so many battles
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:26:56 PM)
I'll go with Bruce's suggestion
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:27:02 PM)
or circling the dl stockholders meeting
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:27:07 PM)
I agree with Rss
businesstraveler (Jan 27, 2003 10:27:09 PM)
You should keep in mind that Delta is an advertiser - so ge has to walk a fine line...
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:27:10 PM)
can't blame him
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:27:16 PM)
mikey ROFL
sowalsky (Jan 27, 2003 10:27:19 PM)
how about an add to run during DL horizons? !!
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:27:19 PM)
Nobody is cutting like Delta is cutting. It's simply extraordinary!
Dick Ginkowski (Jan 27, 2003 10:27:32 PM)
NW really is not backing off
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:27:36 PM)
something is going on that we don't know about
hfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:27:41 PM)
Look, first define what you/we want
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:27:45 PM)
Who wants to hold my money?
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:27:45 PM)
financials must be worse than we know
vasantn (Jan 27, 2003 10:27:46 PM)
Not backing off on what, Dick?
cwpfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:27:48 PM)
I guess I have been watching airline labor relations too long, but how about we all fly into ATL one day and engage in informational picketing. That would be a newsmaker.
hfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:27:49 PM)
GEtting everything back is a dream
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:27:51 PM)
bt makes a very good point. Hadn't considered that.
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:27:56 PM)
is there one all news radio station in ATL?
Tolarian Wind (Jan 27, 2003 10:27:56 PM)
Delta, they like to be the leader in everything
Art234 (Jan 27, 2003 10:27:57 PM)
Well to be frank, I could live with the qualification changes--if I worked at it I could make PM in a few months --it's the loss of tier benefits and getting stingy on upgrades that gets my goat
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:28:04 PM)
wsb
Engines turn (Jan 27, 2003 10:28:08 PM)
I agree eyefly on the mobile billboard - or option b, hire a publicist. We might get a month's work from someone decent
Art234 (Jan 27, 2003 10:28:14 PM)
What did NW do, Dick>
Art234 (Jan 27, 2003 10:28:15 PM)
?
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:28:17 PM)
I agree, Art.
hfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:28:34 PM)
What do you/we want back then???
lofly (Jan 27, 2003 10:28:35 PM)
what is the PURPOSE
Dick Ginkowski (Jan 27, 2003 10:28:40 PM)
NW did not cut back WorldPerks
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:28:42 PM)
I agree with Art
Art234 (Jan 27, 2003 10:28:42 PM)
Bruce, how has UA been treating you?
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:28:42 PM)
press coverage
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:28:43 PM)
will call wsb tomorrow and price ad
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:28:50 PM)
and retrenchment as much as possible
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:28:52 PM)
save Delta
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:28:56 PM)
from themselves
hfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:29:04 PM)
WSJ $35 half page--forget it
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:29:15 PM)
Gannet it was outrageous
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:29:17 PM)
WSB all talk radio in atl
hfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:29:18 PM)
KKKK
LegalTender (Jan 27, 2003 10:29:21 PM)
The cheapest way is CNN interviewing Chris from "The Ticket."
hfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:29:23 PM)
Ah...
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 10:29:23 PM)
three zeroes, right hfly?
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:29:25 PM)
UA is very nice, really. No complaints. They just scaled back their SWUs, howeber (PMU equivalent, but still slightly better).
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:29:25 PM)
41 people in the chat, not bad!
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:29:26 PM)
i think uncle leo will blink we need to get the sand is his eye
LegalTender (Jan 27, 2003 10:29:37 PM)
He freelances at CNN, gets no ad revenue from DL and is
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:29:43 PM)
60 minutes?
vasantn (Jan 27, 2003 10:29:43 PM)
I hate to be negative, but I don't think anything we say or do is going to change anything in the short run. Only a revenue drop will work. That means we all have to MOVE!
sowalsky (Jan 27, 2003 10:29:52 PM)
what about getting someone onto CNN tbl (do they still do that show)?
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:29:53 PM)
I did
Art234 (Jan 27, 2003 10:29:57 PM)
I think that just having so many people here says something.....
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:29:59 PM)
thats what I asked beforis chris on our side
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:30:00 PM)
they still haven't listened
LegalTender (Jan 27, 2003 10:30:03 PM)
swamped with Medallion complaints. It' s totally free and NATIONAL.
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:30:16 PM)
true vasant, but that will be a couple of quarters later..... something needs to be done NOW
vasantn (Jan 27, 2003 10:30:21 PM)
More publicity will only reinforce the bunker mentality.
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:30:23 PM)
cnn has a talkback live session everyday in the cnn centre
hfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:30:35 PM)
Personally I enjoy needling the UA guys for not helping us way back when!!!
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:30:35 PM)
vs, I disagree.
sowalsky (Jan 27, 2003 10:30:36 PM)
that's what i thought
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:30:39 PM)
vas, I disagree
vasantn (Jan 27, 2003 10:30:44 PM)
Why?
ak (Jan 27, 2003 10:30:45 PM)
can we get someone high up at DL to chat with us?
Art234 (Jan 27, 2003 10:30:52 PM)
Well one question I have is--have many people walked?
sowalsky (Jan 27, 2003 10:30:54 PM)
what's the general opinion of that show for public opinion purposes?
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:30:56 PM)
they don't want the press
hfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:30:58 PM)
With who in particular
Dick Ginkowski (Jan 27, 2003 10:31:01 PM)
what could they say?
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:31:02 PM)
the word will spread
cwpfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:31:06 PM)
Art - no plans to requal for PM.
Art234 (Jan 27, 2003 10:31:08 PM)
I don't count-I walked after Comair and never looked back
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:31:08 PM)
and getr more BS about why this program actually helps us ?
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:31:11 PM)
I agree with Rss
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:31:18 PM)
ak all thy are doing is blowing smoke up our collective asses
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:31:20 PM)
goes out national and we might create small distubance
ak (Jan 27, 2003 10:31:23 PM)
Patricia Miles
vasantn (Jan 27, 2003 10:31:25 PM)
This is not an issue that will galvanize the general public, trust me.
Art234 (Jan 27, 2003 10:31:25 PM)
For what it's worth, US treats me better than ANY airline
Delta_RPU (Jan 27, 2003 10:31:36 PM)
Good evening folks.
Seiple (Jan 27, 2003 10:31:39 PM)
IT'S AN RPU RAID!
CelticFlyer (Jan 27, 2003 10:31:40 PM)
Is a single advert going to have the effect ? How about using funds to distribute a stream of news releases highlughting disatisfaction of existing customers as Song is launched...
Seiple (Jan 27, 2003 10:31:42 PM)
RUN FOR THE HILLS!
bnaboy (Jan 27, 2003 10:31:43 PM)
HI!
vasantn (Jan 27, 2003 10:31:44 PM)
Eek!
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:31:47 PM)
They may tend toward a bunker mentality, but they aren't stupid. I've been told that the old-time Deltans are fighting internally to restore some benefits, particularly for PMs, who have gotten slashed way too much (but I'm not trying to limit the complaints).
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:31:48 PM)
Oh My god... I am out of here
hfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:31:49 PM)
Could the Delta person here please identify his/herself, we won't bite
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:31:49 PM)
vas dont care about gen pub only delta pax
peteropny (Jan 27, 2003 10:31:50 PM)
eeek
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:32:05 PM)
Art have they stopped cancelling 50% of their flights?
Delta_RPU (Jan 27, 2003 10:32:14 PM)
I am not at liberty to disclose my identity, but I do work for Delta's Revenue Protection Unit.
hfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:32:19 PM)
Please seriously, we would like to chat
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:32:24 PM)
Hello, Delta RPU. Welcome!
JayBrian (Jan 27, 2003 10:32:25 PM)
lol
hfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:32:28 PM)
Thank you
vasantn (Jan 27, 2003 10:32:29 PM)
And what brings you here?
Art234 (Jan 27, 2003 10:32:30 PM)
Eye Fly, I haven't had a cancellation in over 6 months..
Art234 (Jan 27, 2003 10:32:37 PM)
Nothing more than 15 minutes late either.
melvin (Jan 27, 2003 10:32:40 PM)
welcome
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 10:32:57 PM)
AJC ad.... it will be read
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:33:03 PM)
Delta RPU, can we answer any questions for you?
cwpfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:33:05 PM)
DL RPU, you won't fly any violations here. We're not flying DL at this time!
Beckles (Jan 27, 2003 10:33:08 PM)
US' program elite program is miles ahead of DL's at this point ...
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:33:13 PM)
I was impressed with the way they treated a good friend over the past few months - reminded me of how DL used to treat me
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:33:18 PM)
Folks, we need to make some decisions here tonight. Please focus on the issues.
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:33:19 PM)
would we be willing to spend a little each month to keep momentum going?
Art234 (Jan 27, 2003 10:33:21 PM)
I agree with Beckles.
hfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:33:25 PM)
If true, do you have any statement to make??
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:33:29 PM)
Agreed
Beckles (Jan 27, 2003 10:33:31 PM)
IF (and it's a pretty big IF) US' schedules fit your needs, you'd be crazy to not fly them instead of DL ...
JayBrian (Jan 27, 2003 10:33:32 PM)
they should put a cockroach on the delta bill board
Delta_RPU (Jan 27, 2003 10:33:33 PM)
We monitor BBs such as FlyerTalk, and were interested in seeing what customers like yourselves were thinking right now.
cwpfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:33:35 PM)
US is very good.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:33:43 PM)
Lets focus
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:33:45 PM)
ok.... so we need to get price on the truck and the AJC advt
Engines turn (Jan 27, 2003 10:33:45 PM)
gotta run to catch my lga-cvg-msy-dfw-fll-atl-ewr flight ;)
JayBrian (Jan 27, 2003 10:33:46 PM)
you go Tom
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:33:48 PM)
ok group...what are we going to do?
FrequencyFlyer (Jan 27, 2003 10:33:50 PM)
DL RPU, what is your take on the Medallion changes..,honestly
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:33:52 PM)
#1 radio or billboard
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:33:54 PM)
Call me tomorrow. I use my real name here -- easy to find me.
cwpfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:33:55 PM)
Don't forget, it is not US and UA schedules.
cwpfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:34:08 PM)
US/UA
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:34:09 PM)
Ilike the radio
Tolarian Wind (Jan 27, 2003 10:34:18 PM)
I am certain I will no longer fly exclusively on DL. I will fly what makes most sense to me if I must sit in coach, and that is no longer DL
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:34:19 PM)
can someone take responsibility for getting those rates and posting them on the BB tomorrow?
Art234 (Jan 27, 2003 10:34:19 PM)
Beckles--Back in CLT 2/11 till the 14th
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:34:20 PM)
at this point I'll go radion too
GG (Jan 27, 2003 10:34:24 PM)
engines - LOL!
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:34:28 PM)
willing to check radio
Beckles (Jan 27, 2003 10:34:33 PM)
The link up with UA is nice, but without upgrades it doesn't mean much except for awards as far as I'm concerned ...
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:34:34 PM)
OK
vasantn (Jan 27, 2003 10:34:37 PM)
Delta_RPU, is there any concern at DL that you folks have gone overboard with the changes?
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:34:37 PM)
Delta RPU, any chance Delta will restore some of the elite perks?
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:34:42 PM)
anyone have the price of a permanent billboard
bnaboy (Jan 27, 2003 10:34:44 PM)
Radio sound like best bang for buck
Tolarian Wind (Jan 27, 2003 10:34:47 PM)
thats 30 years of almost exclusive DL flying
Delta_RPU (Jan 27, 2003 10:34:47 PM)
As is the case with every aspect of Delta's operations, the Medallion qualification guidelines were rigorously scruntized, and found to be inadequate for the current industry environment.
hfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:34:49 PM)
Look guys, forget sustained advertising way too expensive.
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:34:50 PM)
rpu...why dont i believe you....
LegalTender (Jan 27, 2003 10:34:50 PM)
Mike Brooks (ex- DL Security VP) is now a CNN reporter.
Art234 (Jan 27, 2003 10:34:57 PM)
They are working on mutual upgrades, Beckles--so my friend in the CP desk told me.
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:35:03 PM)
Qualification isn't the problem. Benefits are!
Dick Ginkowski (Jan 27, 2003 10:35:07 PM)
Especially since most of the "perks" are cost neutral
robnsfla (Jan 27, 2003 10:35:09 PM)
To rpu --Delta needs to retain business not drive it away
LegalTender (Jan 27, 2003 10:35:19 PM)
He could scare up a Va. Avenue spokesperson, I'l bet.
Engines turn (Jan 27, 2003 10:35:20 PM)
prob w/radio - if we want to push a website, radio as good as outdoor
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:35:23 PM)
Are we getting sidetracked by someone impresonating a DL employee?
robnsfla (Jan 27, 2003 10:35:26 PM)
please add back PM benefits
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:35:30 PM)
hey folks.... lets not get distracted.... we were here for a specific agenda
cwpfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:35:33 PM)
Agree Doc
bnaboy (Jan 27, 2003 10:35:36 PM)
EFD-yes
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:35:38 PM)
please focus
Art234 (Jan 27, 2003 10:35:39 PM)
DL_RPU=B747-437?????
Engines turn (Jan 27, 2003 10:35:45 PM)
sorry, radio not as good as outdoor
GG (Jan 27, 2003 10:35:46 PM)
avek...
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:35:47 PM)
so who created the qualifications and who let this whole thing get out of control'''dl or pax
Seiple (Jan 27, 2003 10:35:49 PM)
.haha, wouldn't surprise me
sowalsky (Jan 27, 2003 10:35:50 PM)
what about ads that run in the DL paper ticket jackets?
Dick Ginkowski (Jan 27, 2003 10:35:50 PM)
I think Delta_RPU does not understand that we know the corporate hype, so spare us
lofly (Jan 27, 2003 10:35:53 PM)
way to go Art
CelticFlyer (Jan 27, 2003 10:35:54 PM)
Mr RPU is a fake
Beckles (Jan 27, 2003 10:35:57 PM)
If I had to venture a guess I'd say avek actually ...
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:35:57 PM)
Ok radio price check tomorrow
sowalsky (Jan 27, 2003 10:35:58 PM)
those would be gret
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:36:00 PM)
ivote for dl
melvin (Jan 27, 2003 10:36:01 PM)
lets keep focus
Delta_RPU (Jan 27, 2003 10:36:05 PM)
The company is confident that the changes will ultimately result in a stronger Medallion program.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:36:10 PM)
I think that the billboard truck driver would get arrested
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 10:36:13 PM)
AJC ad, guys... they'll all read it... unless too expensive
vasantn (Jan 27, 2003 10:36:14 PM)
This must be jimpop.
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:36:14 PM)
no more discussions about the program and what can be done to fix it... lets get the prices for the advts and go for it
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:36:16 PM)
and we would have a free speech issue
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:36:19 PM)
Folks RPU phony
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:36:23 PM)
rpu kma
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:36:24 PM)
and that would be quite newsworthy
bnaboy (Jan 27, 2003 10:36:25 PM)
The company is wrong
Engines turn (Jan 27, 2003 10:36:29 PM)
amen eyefly!
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:36:30 PM)
You can't be serious!!! Please call me. We need to talk!
obscure2k (Jan 27, 2003 10:36:30 PM)
Oh, Lord, it appears that everyone is making wonderful points. Thanks to Rssrsvp and others for their help. Most of all, thanks to my kid for teaching and old dog some new tricks.
Dick Ginkowski (Jan 27, 2003 10:36:32 PM)
Just like the company was confidental Delta Express would work? Gimme a break
Art234 (Jan 27, 2003 10:36:34 PM)
Delta RPU--with all due respect, the company doesn't know its customers
hfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:36:40 PM)
brb
Dick Ginkowski (Jan 27, 2003 10:36:51 PM)
confident, sorrt
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:36:53 PM)
How about $100 standby fees?
Beckles (Jan 27, 2003 10:37:04 PM)
I thought they lowered them to $25?
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:37:07 PM)
dick what about swansong
Beckles (Jan 27, 2003 10:37:20 PM)
I can't keep track of the changes they keep making them and changing them so fast ...
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:37:20 PM)
Can we agree on followup chat with facts on two choices and then vote?
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:37:20 PM)
Suggested copy for billboard or radio ad, "From the passengers of Delta Airlines, restore the Skymiles program and keep your Medallion Members as customers."
Art234 (Jan 27, 2003 10:37:22 PM)
Delta RPU--think about it--you have almost 50 people in this room--just to discuss methods of publicly objecting to the changes....
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:37:25 PM)
Yeah, that's my point. The company is always "confident" until it backs down.
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:37:29 PM)
should we meet back here tomorrow with the rates for all the advt options
CelticFlyer (Jan 27, 2003 10:37:29 PM)
www.songair.com coming soon to a screen near you
Delta_RPU (Jan 27, 2003 10:37:33 PM)
Art: Many of our customers who travel on the more expensive Coach fares asked for greater ease in obtaining Medallion status.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:37:38 PM)
Rss that works
LegalTender (Jan 27, 2003 10:37:38 PM)
One last time..CNN is the best way to get DL' attention. Hello????
cwpfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:37:40 PM)
Rss.. That's good
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:37:48 PM)
rssrsvp..works for me
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:37:49 PM)
or should we just follow up on the FF board
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:37:51 PM)
Rs Simple good copy
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:37:56 PM)
RPU, please hear me: Qualification isn't the issue; benefits are!!!
robnsfla (Jan 27, 2003 10:37:57 PM)
adding back PM upgrades now saves face and revenue
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:38:07 PM)
legal...can we get to cnn
LAOCA (Jan 27, 2003 10:38:09 PM)
second that Bruce
vasantn (Jan 27, 2003 10:38:10 PM)
Delta_RPU, is all of your company as deaf as you? It's about BENEFITS, not QUALIFICCATION.
Art234 (Jan 27, 2003 10:38:10 PM)
Delta RPU I think you miss the point--the qualification changes are NOT the issue for us.
bnaboy (Jan 27, 2003 10:38:15 PM)
Please post on board, I cannot be on tomorrow night
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:38:23 PM)
this RPU person makes me more riled about the program.... someone at DL please listen.... the changes suck
LegalTender (Jan 27, 2003 10:38:23 PM)
You'e got two people who prowl the building who have DL connections and
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:38:27 PM)
Delta RPU isn't real
SanDiego1K (Jan 27, 2003 10:38:28 PM)
Folks, given the style of writing, I strongly suspect RPU is avek
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:38:30 PM)
just a distraction
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:38:33 PM)
forger rpu...hes a phony
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:38:35 PM)
RPU, please allow us to discuss the business at hand. You are free to post on the DL board at your leisure.
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:38:37 PM)
refocus
LegalTender (Jan 27, 2003 10:38:39 PM)
a boatload of PM's as eomployees, including key producers.
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:38:41 PM)
keep on topic
Engines turn (Jan 27, 2003 10:38:43 PM)
folks there's an ignore function perfect for RPU (icon with an ear x'ed thru)
vasantn (Jan 27, 2003 10:38:43 PM)
Delta_RPU is JIMPOP.
robnsfla (Jan 27, 2003 10:38:45 PM)
we are willing to pay up just keep the PM benefits
GG (Jan 27, 2003 10:38:46 PM)
carol, I said that already
CelticFlyer (Jan 27, 2003 10:38:51 PM)
Delta_RPU - name one query tool used in RPU
SanDiego1K (Jan 27, 2003 10:38:54 PM)
GG - and I am confirming
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:38:56 PM)
he's a waste of time
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:38:59 PM)
lets focus
Art234 (Jan 27, 2003 10:39:04 PM)
Well on that note, I am off to sleep---I have a rare night home so I am going to enjoy my own bed for a change...
Dick Ginkowski (Jan 27, 2003 10:39:12 PM)
RPU-revenue protection unit
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:39:14 PM)
sleep tight
Art234 (Jan 27, 2003 10:39:17 PM)
Good luck and someone let me know if I can be of help.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:39:17 PM)
OK
Dick Ginkowski (Jan 27, 2003 10:39:18 PM)
company scabs
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:39:20 PM)
By Art
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:39:21 PM)
yep... so we have a decision.... prices on mobile, AJC and radio spots and we continue this tomorrow
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:39:21 PM)
radio or billboard
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:39:24 PM)
Eye Fly who wants my money?
I LOVE EWR (Jan 27, 2003 10:39:29 PM)
does anyone want me to check radio in NY?
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:39:30 PM)
that's the next question
Art234 (Jan 27, 2003 10:39:32 PM)
G;night all
Delta_RPU (Jan 27, 2003 10:39:39 PM)
Therefore, Delta decided to use the advice of the competent avek00 and modified the Medallion program to fit the company's current needs. :D
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:39:40 PM)
No, Atlanta, for sure.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:39:42 PM)
how do we collect pledges?
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:39:45 PM)
radio in ATL is more important
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:39:57 PM)
paypal would be an easy option
LAOCA (Jan 27, 2003 10:39:59 PM)
If Delta put someone in this room, you think they'd make a name that included RPU?
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:40:02 PM)
OK
vasantn (Jan 27, 2003 10:40:07 PM)
Stop wasting our time, avek00.
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:40:08 PM)
eyefly...i think billboard will get media attention
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:40:10 PM)
who wants to be the collector
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:40:13 PM)
EFD, would you be willing to accept checks?
Delta_RPU (Jan 27, 2003 10:40:15 PM)
seriously tho guys, good luck with your crusade
vasantn (Jan 27, 2003 10:40:23 PM)
Go play with fonseca33.
ClueByFour (Jan 27, 2003 10:40:28 PM)
What was the chat this evening?
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:40:34 PM)
I would but to be honest I prefer to remain obscure
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:40:34 PM)
you too RPU.... best of luck in the ivory tower
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:40:36 PM)
RPU, come back and visit the DL board
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:40:38 PM)
no pun intended ;-)
Dick Ginkowski (Jan 27, 2003 10:40:39 PM)
LAOCA, never presume smart thinking and Delta management can coexist in the same sentence
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:40:47 PM)
LOL
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:40:49 PM)
Eye Fly, would you be willing to hold money?
CelticFlyer (Jan 27, 2003 10:40:53 PM)
RPU - don't bother :-)
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:40:55 PM)
My thought is someone whi is already out
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:41:12 PM)
bruce is out
LegalTender (Jan 27, 2003 10:41:19 PM)
I tried. Nite, all.
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:41:20 PM)
is there an address to send the check to?
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:41:20 PM)
I am!
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:41:33 PM)
WOuld you handle the funds?
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:41:34 PM)
Never tried to hide my identity.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:41:42 PM)
braver soul than I
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:41:42 PM)
woah.... we're losing people
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:41:48 PM)
quickly too
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:41:53 PM)
lets get this on target
lofly (Jan 27, 2003 10:42:01 PM)
Doc, use pay pal
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:42:04 PM)
Bruce I trust you
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:42:07 PM)
didnt you always say you use your name and all know who you are unlike us chickens who hide behind nics
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:42:09 PM)
neeed to collect pledges
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:42:10 PM)
me too
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:42:20 PM)
Radio ads in Atlanta, asking people to join the cause? But whom do they contact?
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:42:20 PM)
doc: yep set up an address and we'll send you the money
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:42:27 PM)
would you care to handle the fund collection?
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:42:31 PM)
refer folks to saveskymiles.com
obscure2k (Jan 27, 2003 10:42:40 PM)
O2k, here, Talk radio is the way to go. We can spin any way we wish; liberal, libertarian or conservative Call Rush, Hannity, Elder--
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:42:43 PM)
I agree with runner
Engines turn (Jan 27, 2003 10:42:44 PM)
bruce is ok with me - you can use leftovers to buy upgrades
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:42:53 PM)
ok doc how about quick recap of plan
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:42:57 PM)
:)
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:42:58 PM)
Here we go
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:43:04 PM)
Bruce collect funds
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:43:17 PM)
Save skymiles to promote the issue
sowalsky (Jan 27, 2003 10:43:25 PM)
just thinking about this, i don't think mobile bb isthe way to go because the message must get across in crucial dl markets like ny and bos as well as atl
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:43:26 PM)
radio or mobile bill board
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:43:30 PM)
are we all using paypal? is the website updated ?
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:43:35 PM)
SSM needs randy's help to work
Engines turn (Jan 27, 2003 10:43:43 PM)
why randy?
vasantn (Jan 27, 2003 10:43:44 PM)
Gotta go, people ... I'm in for a couple of hundred at leaast. Just let me know when and where to send the money.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:43:46 PM)
remember that the only purpose is to get media coverage
sowalsky (Jan 27, 2003 10:43:46 PM)
i'm a fan of radio via a national network ad
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:43:49 PM)
it's his site
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:44:05 PM)
could we send checks to randy???????
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:44:10 PM)
The idea is to generate press attention. Start in Atlanta, sign up LOTS of Delta customers in its fortress, then tell the world.
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:44:11 PM)
:)
sowalsky (Jan 27, 2003 10:44:11 PM)
if you want media coverage, someone just sneak into the main lobby of atl at night and put flyers everywhere
lofly (Jan 27, 2003 10:44:12 PM)
lol
vasantn (Jan 27, 2003 10:44:13 PM)
You're dreaming.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:44:13 PM)
Would randy allow it?
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:44:15 PM)
if we attract attention maybe we get more money to do other mkts
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:44:34 PM)
Press attention is FREE!!!
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:44:36 PM)
all we can hope for is a quick national media hit
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:44:38 PM)
atl...cvg.....lga...slc....dfw
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 10:44:40 PM)
No, Sowalsky, the message has to get across in Atlanta
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:44:45 PM)
Bruce where do we send$
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:44:49 PM)
and then the media will run with it or drop it
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:44:57 PM)
Bruce, you OK with it?
sowalsky (Jan 27, 2003 10:44:59 PM)
who is the target audience in atl?
Marnso (Jan 27, 2003 10:45:02 PM)
Am I in the Delta room?
sowalsky (Jan 27, 2003 10:45:05 PM)
yes
vasantn (Jan 27, 2003 10:45:05 PM)
'Night all.
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:45:07 PM)
If we can succeed in Atlanta (which is cheaper than many other places, too), we will get lots of attention.
bnaboy (Jan 27, 2003 10:45:07 PM)
yes
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:45:07 PM)
you are
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:45:11 PM)
night vas
Marnso (Jan 27, 2003 10:45:17 PM)
well I'll be!
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 10:45:20 PM)
Many Medallions and all Delta top decision makers
sowalsky (Jan 27, 2003 10:45:21 PM)
bdschobel -- okay
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:45:31 PM)
does anyone know cost of ad in AJC? Is there a Sunday travel section?
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:45:31 PM)
i will mail someone 100.00
lofly (Jan 27, 2003 10:45:44 PM)
yes there is
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:45:48 PM)
I'll mail or paypal $200
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:45:51 PM)
There is travel section
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:45:55 PM)
and help set it in motion
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:45:57 PM)
mikey, is that a DL voucher for the $100?
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:46:02 PM)
:-)
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 10:46:05 PM)
Do the biZ section
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:46:14 PM)
what address are we sending the money ?
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:46:15 PM)
nah...ill use real cash
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:46:19 PM)
all of these ads are expensive
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 10:46:21 PM)
Delta bosses won't read the travel section
bnaboy (Jan 27, 2003 10:46:22 PM)
agree with Lex on biz section
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:46:23 PM)
Lex, compare the rates
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:46:28 PM)
I spent a good deal of time looking
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:46:30 PM)
Radio is really cheap.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:46:33 PM)
didn't think of radio
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 10:46:35 PM)
ah, yes, don't know rates
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:46:38 PM)
and that may be the way to go
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:46:45 PM)
anyone object to radio?
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:46:47 PM)
all news station
bnaboy (Jan 27, 2003 10:46:50 PM)
no
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:46:52 PM)
will check rdio tomorrow
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:46:57 PM)
that makes sense
cwpfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:47:01 PM)
Radio is good.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:47:06 PM)
we should post a summary of this on FT
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:47:06 PM)
bruce is right
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:47:07 PM)
should we be back here tomorrow at 9 ?
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 10:47:10 PM)
Radio you also have to pay to have the ad produced. Print is easier
paradocs (Jan 27, 2003 10:47:16 PM)
it must be an all news station as RSVP says
Engines turn (Jan 27, 2003 10:47:17 PM)
radio not cheap - production costs
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:47:19 PM)
true
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:47:22 PM)
I'll be in the office
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:47:24 PM)
is there someone here in PR who can write a press reliese about what we are doing/did and send to as many papers and radio stations as possible
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:47:34 PM)
Not to be cute, but tomorrow is the State of the Union address. I actually have to watch it.
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:47:37 PM)
Lex simple tape needed
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:47:53 PM)
Wed. at 9PM?
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 10:47:57 PM)
Anybody here do that?
bnaboy (Jan 27, 2003 10:48:00 PM)
Thanks to all who are actually doing leg work in addition to contributing. I am in for at least $100. Good night all.
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:48:07 PM)
We at 9pm good for me
paradocs (Jan 27, 2003 10:48:09 PM)
don't forget state of Union Address tomorrow. That might mean fewer visitors here.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:48:12 PM)
Weds works for me
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:48:13 PM)
Me, too.
Engines turn (Jan 27, 2003 10:48:17 PM)
okay with weds
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:48:21 PM)
bd..no you dont....the economy sucks and we are bombing iraq..thats the speach
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:48:22 PM)
I'm signing off too... wed at 9.00..... g'nite
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:48:28 PM)
the billboard company I mentioned may be willing to do it for very little
jeffreyt (Jan 27, 2003 10:48:32 PM)
Hey all.. looks like I missed everything.. didn't I?
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:48:34 PM)
I'll see what he says
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:48:38 PM)
nope
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:48:42 PM)
Eye Fly that would be terrific
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:48:42 PM)
Jeff
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 10:48:45 PM)
that would be great efd
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:48:53 PM)
not as much as it seems
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:48:54 PM)
I nened to hear what he says about taxes. It's my job.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:49:03 PM)
I'll call tomorrow and see what he says
cwpfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:49:14 PM)
Doc, Great!
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:49:15 PM)
my office manager sent him to the Delta site to see what happened
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:49:19 PM)
he had no idea
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:49:19 PM)
btw...what is dl stock selling for....we need to all buy a share and go to meeting
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:49:25 PM)
if he's willing to do it for cost
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:49:29 PM)
it may be the way to go
Engines turn (Jan 27, 2003 10:49:33 PM)
I can ask about a PR person in atl
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:49:39 PM)
$9.86 today
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:49:39 PM)
for those interested I posted the site way back
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:49:44 PM)
Hell i'll drive the truck for nothing
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:49:47 PM)
Eyefly, if the mobile billboard guy is a PM, he might do it at cost or pro bono
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 10:49:53 PM)
About 10 bucks
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:49:57 PM)
i can afford 100.00 for a share
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:49:57 PM)
I had that feeling
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:50:03 PM)
10.00
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:50:06 PM)
my office manager said he was really pissed
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:50:10 PM)
you know the feeling
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:50:27 PM)
Mobile billboard is good ONLY if a local TV station picks up the story. Otherwise, it's a waste of time, in my opinion. Audience is too small.
lofly (Jan 27, 2003 10:50:28 PM)
18.80 today
DLrunner (Jan 27, 2003 10:50:37 PM)
who filed the lawsuit? I just read about it
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:50:40 PM)
I agree
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:50:47 PM)
drive bb to tv office
jeffreyt (Jan 27, 2003 10:50:55 PM)
It's nice to see everyone on here... and it looks like people are starting to leave now, but what happened? Did you decide on the bb or not?
cwpfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:50:55 PM)
If we do the billboard,we need DL flyers to go down to ATL in a large group.
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 10:50:56 PM)
some ambulance chaser
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:50:58 PM)
gannet that's a nice idea
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:50:58 PM)
May have to be more subtle than that!
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:51:06 PM)
maybe not
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:51:10 PM)
it might work
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:51:15 PM)
rssrvp...are you willing to do a synopsys for ft....send copies to the ticket and we can all contact our news contacts
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:51:20 PM)
park in front of the local TV station
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:51:33 PM)
if it hits them in the face they cant ignore it
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:51:38 PM)
that's true
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:51:41 PM)
It's too obvious and will backfire.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:51:43 PM)
like DL hit us
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:51:57 PM)
They have to WANT to cover the story.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:51:59 PM)
then again, Bruce is usually a voice of reason
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:51:59 PM)
I can post on the board tomorrow. How do you get in touch with the Ticket? That is your baby.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:52:04 PM)
true
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:52:16 PM)
bd not sure subtlety will get us noticed
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:52:33 PM)
i hope i saved his email adress..if not ill find it
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:52:40 PM)
A simple call to the media when the board was circling would get them out
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:52:44 PM)
That's why I like the approach of using cheap radio ads to build up support.
jeffreyt (Jan 27, 2003 10:52:45 PM)
I agree
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:53:03 PM)
the radio ad or the mbillboard would both work
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:53:05 PM)
Flash, a mobile billboard gets a flat tire in front of DL terminal in ATL.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:53:08 PM)
whichever is cheaper
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:53:22 PM)
I like the circling idea
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:53:28 PM)
I can see the promo
jeffreyt (Jan 27, 2003 10:53:30 PM)
Cheap radio ads is another way, too.I was on a flight from AMS-CDG this weekend and a fellow PMer didn't even know about the changes!
lofly (Jan 27, 2003 10:53:31 PM)
not to subtle
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:53:33 PM)
on ATL TV
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:53:36 PM)
here comes cops to ticket billboard
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:53:54 PM)
it wasn't a plane circling ATL this afternoon...
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:53:55 PM)
will airport police allow circling?
obscure2k (Jan 27, 2003 10:53:58 PM)
--Call Dr. Laura and complain how this is impacating our relationships--call Larry Elder about this being a Libertarian issue--call Sean Hannity and explain how the FF's are being screwed-over (of course, politely). Call Limbaugh, say "mega-dittos" and bitch about how this is all about liberal-media bias. Call, call and call some more. I do believe thatTALKRadio is the free route--
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:54:09 PM)
People at ATL either work for Delta or are in a hurry. Not the best approach, in my opinion.
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:54:10 PM)
convoy following truck with horns blazing
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:54:18 PM)
The billboard owner said yes
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:54:22 PM)
said he's done it before
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:54:23 PM)
summons for noise
jeffreyt (Jan 27, 2003 10:54:32 PM)
I like the Rush call. LOL. Saying "Mega Dittos" is key.
jeffreyt (Jan 27, 2003 10:54:35 PM)
:)
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:54:40 PM)
not likely with an anti-DL message
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:54:45 PM)
i liked that the usa today article talked about us complaining
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 10:54:55 PM)
Me, too.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:54:56 PM)
we'll we are complaining
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:54:57 PM)
Eyefly, it seems to me that you really have to work on the mobile guy
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 10:55:07 PM)
good lord obscure, do you listen to all those awful people?
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:55:11 PM)
I can be pretty persuasive
jeffreyt (Jan 27, 2003 10:55:14 PM)
Did I miss something while I was in France? Did USA Today cover us?
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:55:31 PM)
so let's table this until Wed. at 9 PM
Engines turn (Jan 27, 2003 10:55:34 PM)
no they covered a truly petty story - good news for us
mikey1003 (Jan 27, 2003 10:55:38 PM)
phone call for work...have to go...later im in
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:55:41 PM)
that sounds like a plan
lofly (Jan 27, 2003 10:55:45 PM)
they covered the airline industry
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:55:50 PM)
Wecat nine good I'll have radio numbers
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:56:04 PM)
sounds good gan
cwpfly (Jan 27, 2003 10:56:09 PM)
Please take notes for Wednesday. I can come.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:56:23 PM)
I am hoping that he'll do the rolling board for very little
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:56:27 PM)
Again, I stress that you need an all news station,!
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:56:30 PM)
If I owned it I would
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 10:56:38 PM)
Good gannet #s is what are needed...
Engines turn (Jan 27, 2003 10:56:42 PM)
thanks doc, bruce, good night
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:56:45 PM)
if he won't then radio makes the most sense
gannet (Jan 27, 2003 10:56:50 PM)
Bye folks, talk again wed
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:56:50 PM)
take care
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:56:54 PM)
sounds good
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:57:02 PM)
Here's a question
obscure2k (Jan 27, 2003 10:57:03 PM)
I listen to those awful people because my best friends manage them!
jeffreyt (Jan 27, 2003 10:57:10 PM)
Why can't we get on WINS 1010 in NYC. That's the #! listened to station in America (or so they say every 2 minutes)
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:57:14 PM)
Eyefly,mobile billboard is 1st choice, and radion is 2nd.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:57:16 PM)
anyone think that the news is here now?
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:57:18 PM)
or DL?
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 10:57:23 PM)
is the ssm website doing the web stuff, or do we need a new one?
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:57:25 PM)
Agree
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:57:34 PM)
I think SSM can be adapted
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:57:35 PM)
easily
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:57:39 PM)
WINS broadcasts in NYC
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:57:39 PM)
we only need one page
jeffreyt (Jan 27, 2003 10:57:46 PM)
I know.
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 10:57:47 PM)
who runs it he asked ignorantly?
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:57:56 PM)
WINS?
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 10:57:59 PM)
Randy?
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:58:04 PM)
There was already an update on the SSM site regarding the changes
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:58:09 PM)
Oh SSM ;-)
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:58:23 PM)
it would be easy to summarize the issues
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:58:35 PM)
if I had the time I could do it on a free site
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:58:40 PM)
they are summarized already at SSM
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 10:58:50 PM)
but it is a bit too busy - no?
GG (Jan 27, 2003 10:59:00 PM)
not very coherently
GG (Jan 27, 2003 10:59:11 PM)
IS that Randy?
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 10:59:21 PM)
GG, Lex what is your take on this?
GG (Jan 27, 2003 10:59:42 PM)
not as good as I'd hoped, but I have notes... ;)
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 11:00:17 PM)
Bruce, welcome back, we have collected $4500, and are mailing it to you.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:00:19 PM)
they know who you are ;-)
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 11:00:20 PM)
Get numbers, make decisions soon... I like print still, but if billboard guy gives you a great deal, sounds okay
obscure2k (Jan 27, 2003 11:00:20 PM)
My feeling--flood the talk radio stations--it's a free venue. Be prepared to come with a political agenda relevant to FF mles.
jeffreyt (Jan 27, 2003 11:00:29 PM)
So what is the Wednesday 9p.m. chat going to accompolished.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:00:41 PM)
the problem is that it takes time to call
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:00:43 PM)
and listen
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:00:51 PM)
and time costs more than money for most of us
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 11:00:51 PM)
define the options
jeffreyt (Jan 27, 2003 11:00:52 PM)
obscure 2k is correct. We're both in LA, so we can touch base with KNX and KFWB.
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 11:00:55 PM)
Talk radio in Atlanta would probably work. Everybody has some tie to Delta there.
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 11:00:58 PM)
Wed. we should have hard numbers
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:01:06 PM)
Yup
GG (Jan 27, 2003 11:01:19 PM)
gee, if I log off, can I come back and get the next $4500? (sorry...)
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 11:01:37 PM)
This is like a town meeting where everybody talks at once... hard to clarify the issues and responses
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:01:42 PM)
Since there is likely a Delta person hiding here
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:01:47 PM)
why not just fix things
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 11:01:48 PM)
Good...
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 11:01:49 PM)
GG, it is Canadian dollars. :)
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:01:51 PM)
and save us the trouble
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:02:07 PM)
You know they will
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 11:02:16 PM)
quote it in HK$ then, make folks feel REAL good
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:02:27 PM)
but it will be too late for those of us who left to come back and earn PM or GM
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 11:02:32 PM)
They have to do something, like with the standby fees. Will it be enough, I wonder?
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:02:32 PM)
maybe that was the idea
BWIPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 11:02:33 PM)
hey all, sorry to have joined late - what was resolved re: Elite advertising and how may I contribute?
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 11:02:43 PM)
Yeah... it's a cause now, not a personal thing
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:02:49 PM)
We are going with a TV ad
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:02:53 PM)
3 weeks
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:02:59 PM)
midday
GG (Jan 27, 2003 11:03:03 PM)
??? 8>
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 11:03:04 PM)
BWI, we are still deciding on what media to use
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:03:04 PM)
... just kidding
lofly (Jan 27, 2003 11:03:06 PM)
tv ad?????
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:03:14 PM)
joke
jeffreyt (Jan 27, 2003 11:03:16 PM)
It was a joke
obscure2k (Jan 27, 2003 11:03:16 PM)
Note: Elder, Hannity, Rush, all have websites. Clearly, they all travel up-front.
jeffreyt (Jan 27, 2003 11:03:30 PM)
That's true, Obscure2k...
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:03:33 PM)
we can use talk radio as well
BWIPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 11:03:34 PM)
well, i happen to work at a major cable broadcasting station and have 14 minutes of on-air time weekly
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:03:38 PM)
no reason not to
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:03:49 PM)
Well that's a start!
BWIPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 11:03:52 PM)
just kidding, EyeFlyDoc :)
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:03:56 PM)
ha!
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:03:59 PM)
got me!
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:04:25 PM)
it makes sense for those who are so inclined to do what they can to publicize this
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 11:04:27 PM)
We need to emphasize, as USA Today did, that Delta isn't cutting like all the other airlines are. It's going way beyond.
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 11:04:28 PM)
and probably pay for it, or their media do, so they don't like us upgrading riffraff; or they brag on flying coach, like cheapskate Howard
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 11:04:50 PM)
Bruce, we have to say it is the worse plan out there
lofly (Jan 27, 2003 11:05:02 PM)
bruce, did you read what USA wrote last week
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 11:05:04 PM)
It helps that we're telling the truth!
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:05:04 PM)
I think that the message is that they have alienated us enough to cost them their business
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:05:10 PM)
that's the key
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 11:05:14 PM)
Last week? No.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:05:17 PM)
that the company will die if they don't wake up
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 11:05:24 PM)
Business Week, letter to the editor
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:05:31 PM)
if we make it about FFer perks it won't be enough
jeffreyt (Jan 27, 2003 11:05:47 PM)
Good suggestion RSSRSVP
lofly (Jan 27, 2003 11:05:49 PM)
a # of stories related to te problems of the airline industry
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:05:52 PM)
Did anyone get a call from USA Today?
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 11:06:06 PM)
No, still waiting
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 11:06:06 PM)
Not I.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:06:09 PM)
me too
obscure2k (Jan 27, 2003 11:06:12 PM)
My big suggestion tonight was involving ourselves in TalkRadio. Thanks, Rssrsvp for starting this discussion. Have to feed a couple of people, so, will say goodnight. Well-done, Rssrsvp.
jeffreyt (Jan 27, 2003 11:06:24 PM)
I got an email twice now in the last 2 weeks from Ron Leiber at WSJ. I was out of the country though.
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 11:06:28 PM)
Bye, o2k
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:06:40 PM)
that's interesting
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 11:06:56 PM)
JT, what does Leiber write about?
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:06:59 PM)
Will he be covering this?
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:07:25 PM)
I think he's travel
jeffreyt (Jan 27, 2003 11:07:28 PM)
I don't know. I think it is similiar to what Jane Costello does, but his articles mostly appear in the print version.
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 11:07:33 PM)
perfect person
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 11:07:49 PM)
Mostly journalists are looking for human interest quotes to liven up their "facts"; maybe we should work on some party line slogans anybody could give out?
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:07:54 PM)
my guess is that the media is interested
jeffreyt (Jan 27, 2003 11:08:02 PM)
I agree completely.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:08:06 PM)
but waiting for something to happen
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 11:08:09 PM)
yes
jeffreyt (Jan 27, 2003 11:08:16 PM)
Like a billboard
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:08:19 PM)
a passenger uprising would work
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:08:23 PM)
or a billboard
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:08:31 PM)
by the way
jeffreyt (Jan 27, 2003 11:08:37 PM)
It's so small, but could make a big impact news wise.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:08:41 PM)
DL is spinning it to their own employees
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 11:08:42 PM)
They need to see that it's not just a few travel nerds, though. We need bigger numbers.
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 11:08:45 PM)
employees being laid off because of poor decisions on VA. Ave.
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 11:08:50 PM)
"Delta used to be my airline of choice; now it's my airline of avoidance"
bareflanks (Jan 27, 2003 11:08:54 PM)
uprising wont work...a billboard will
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:09:05 PM)
my CRC person told me that we're getting what we finally deserve
jeffreyt (Jan 27, 2003 11:09:05 PM)
But I don't think we're a bunch of small travel nerds.
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 11:09:10 PM)
Employees aren't buying the spin. I've spoken with quite a few.
BWIPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 11:09:10 PM)
those who spoke earlier about the absence of mobile billboards in ATL were on-point. still very rare and an attention getter..
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:09:13 PM)
billboard is an uprising
jeffreyt (Jan 27, 2003 11:09:15 PM)
Okay.. maybe you are Bruce. :)
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:09:20 PM)
it was odd
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 11:09:21 PM)
SlideMiles,the benefits don't stick.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:09:23 PM)
she wasn't nastly
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:09:33 PM)
but said that given the current economy
kluau88 (Jan 27, 2003 11:09:42 PM)
hey Lauri!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:09:46 PM)
the new program is appropriate
FLYMSY (Jan 27, 2003 11:09:51 PM)
Another late joiner. Was involved in a situation when I was Pres & COB of a national photographers trade association. Had a problem with largest American producer of photographic products. We wound up having them come hat in hand looking to resolve the situation. We started out by publicizing it in our member publication and sent out press releases. The story was picked up by trade publications, NPR, WSJ, etc. Sorry for what seems like a long post and I'm really trying to make it short. 8^)
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:10:10 PM)
it was saliet
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:10:13 PM)
and pertinent too!
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 11:10:15 PM)
That's the right approach!!!
jeffreyt (Jan 27, 2003 11:10:19 PM)
amen
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:10:25 PM)
absolutely
flyerwife (Jan 27, 2003 11:10:26 PM)
sorry Kev :)
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:10:50 PM)
so I think we're on the road to action
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:10:54 PM)
and that's good
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 11:11:02 PM)
Can we buy an ad on yahoo?
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:11:09 PM)
good question
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 11:11:16 PM)
Big bucks, I think.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:11:19 PM)
but not sure that it would be visible enough
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:11:24 PM)
to attract media
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 11:11:33 PM)
"I really feel sorry for the employees who will suffer as our flying move to other airlines, but Delta isn't a charity and neither am I."
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 11:11:42 PM)
Suggested copy for billboard or radio ad, "From the passengers of Delta Airlines, restore the Skymiles program and keep your Medallion Members as customers."
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:11:42 PM)
me too
jeffreyt (Jan 27, 2003 11:11:53 PM)
A Billboard would be MUCH cheaper than an ad on Yahoo and would get us noticed easiler.
jeffreyt (Jan 27, 2003 11:11:59 PM)
easier.
bareflanks (Jan 27, 2003 11:12:02 PM)
I like Rssrvp suggestion
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:12:06 PM)
that works Rss
jeffreyt (Jan 27, 2003 11:12:17 PM)
Great!
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:12:19 PM)
I think the best way to handle the copy is to post on FT
kazman (Jan 27, 2003 11:12:22 PM)
Sorry - just got in - so missed most - Has anyone sent a letter to the stock analysts that cover aviation discussing the potential of declining revenue due to defections ????
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:12:23 PM)
and come to consensue
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:12:30 PM)
Rss that was a great start
jeffreyt (Jan 27, 2003 11:12:36 PM)
Yes, please post to FT.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:12:37 PM)
kax
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:12:45 PM)
kaz, that was my first thought
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:13:01 PM)
I even wrote a sample letter to post on FT
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:13:12 PM)
but decided that it was a bit too extreme
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 11:13:27 PM)
We could post negative Delta news on financial chat boards. Suggest massive defections. We have to really believe it, however, or it's manipulation.
kazman (Jan 27, 2003 11:13:30 PM)
I have noticed that the comment cards ar e"missing" in the CRC lately !
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:13:34 PM)
and would do more to cause DL to become intrasigent
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:13:40 PM)
intransigent
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:13:42 PM)
that is
bareflanks (Jan 27, 2003 11:13:49 PM)
Yes they are Kazman
bareflanks (Jan 27, 2003 11:13:55 PM)
No where to be found in
bareflanks (Jan 27, 2003 11:14:02 PM)
Sky also
lofly (Jan 27, 2003 11:14:09 PM)
is the purpose to put DL out of business?
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:14:11 PM)
bruce we could link to FT
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:14:15 PM)
on yahoo
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:14:30 PM)
the financial boards might find our comments interesting
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:14:34 PM)
hey RV
RVBOOS (Jan 27, 2003 11:14:38 PM)
hi everyone, sorry i'm so late
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:14:48 PM)
any news from USA Today?
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 11:14:51 PM)
The REAL purpose has to be generating press coverage that embarrasses Delta and forces them to reconsider.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:14:57 PM)
agreed
RVBOOS (Jan 27, 2003 11:14:58 PM)
the article was in USA Today
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 11:14:58 PM)
Delta management is busy putting itself out of business -- the purpose is to stop that, I thiink
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:15:09 PM)
I agree
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:15:16 PM)
lex that is exactly the point
kazman (Jan 27, 2003 11:15:21 PM)
My new deal - call DL to task on everything - and report all failures re:customer commitment to DOT
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 11:15:21 PM)
We just need to be noticed by the big-time media.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:15:28 PM)
RV were you interviewed?
RVBOOS (Jan 27, 2003 11:15:30 PM)
I give the guy the lead on the story and he never calls or interviews me
FLYMSY (Jan 27, 2003 11:15:38 PM)
I think that the billboard phrase needs to be catchy, short, sweet, & to the point. Maybe even have a url on it. Something that will make the press want ot pick it up.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:15:38 PM)
Ah
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:15:52 PM)
that was my thought MSY
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:15:59 PM)
tell the story on a URL
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:16:11 PM)
We don't care if Medallions read it
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:16:15 PM)
we want the media to
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:16:18 PM)
and then write about it
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 11:16:23 PM)
"Delta to Frequent Flyers: Drop Dead"
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 11:16:23 PM)
Radio ads!!! Get people to join the cause.
FLYMSY (Jan 27, 2003 11:16:26 PM)
Oops, sorry. That's what I get for coming in late.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:16:29 PM)
haha that [email protected]
kazman (Jan 27, 2003 11:16:34 PM)
How about Keith Alexander at the Wasgington POst or Sally Donnelley at Time - two professional aviation reporters ???
RVBOOS (Jan 27, 2003 11:16:36 PM)
I did get a two page letter today in the mail, seems very canned though
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 11:16:37 PM)
I just checked yahoo. Only 1 big ad. the rest is their copy. bad choice, can anyone think of another site?
bareflanks (Jan 27, 2003 11:16:42 PM)
Whatever we do, it should be soon
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:16:49 PM)
I got a nice one too
lofly (Jan 27, 2003 11:16:51 PM)
Lex, that would be a good Mobile AD
kazman (Jan 27, 2003 11:16:51 PM)
are we now MUD-Dellaions ????
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 11:17:06 PM)
Why soon? Most of the really bad stuff doesn't happen for a year!
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:17:06 PM)
I was thinking of sending it to US with my statement for a comp
lofly (Jan 27, 2003 11:17:09 PM)
short and sweet
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 11:17:24 PM)
Bruce, way past your bedtime.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:17:24 PM)
and not obscene
bareflanks (Jan 27, 2003 11:17:27 PM)
Because its still fresh in the news.
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 11:17:32 PM)
Delta intentionally gave itself time to reconsider these changes.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:17:35 PM)
sooner is better
lofly (Jan 27, 2003 11:17:43 PM)
and would get someones attention
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:17:46 PM)
time is not on their side
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 11:17:47 PM)
agreed
RVBOOS (Jan 27, 2003 11:17:47 PM)
i'm planning on eating all the free CRC snacks I can, then bolting in 2004
kazman (Jan 27, 2003 11:17:47 PM)
sooner
jeffreyt (Jan 27, 2003 11:18:02 PM)
I think you are right Bruce, which is why I have flown 18,000 MQM's this month.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:18:16 PM)
I think they are on to us RV
FLYMSY (Jan 27, 2003 11:18:17 PM)
Sooner is better because there is more passion about it now.
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 11:18:18 PM)
I have 10,000!
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 11:18:19 PM)
Delta cleverly found a way to bribe PMs to hang in for a while...
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 11:18:24 PM)
And I'm not done yet.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:18:32 PM)
I no longer get double when I order Glen Morangie on board
lofly (Jan 27, 2003 11:18:38 PM)
cancelled the only flight I had scheduled this month
jeffreyt (Jan 27, 2003 11:19:00 PM)
(I flew 9k in F on AF).
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 11:19:16 PM)
We have $1400 credits to use and a half million miles to burn... that's what they're getting from us from now on...
RVBOOS (Jan 27, 2003 11:19:19 PM)
The letter wrote, "We will promptly credit you with TWENTY 500 Mile upgrades on 1/1/2004"
bareflanks (Jan 27, 2003 11:19:21 PM)
flew BE full fare to NY this month....what a joke.
lofly (Jan 27, 2003 11:19:30 PM)
yea I had was in F to ONT
kazman (Jan 27, 2003 11:19:33 PM)
Yeah the bribe works - PM's stay in 2003, they comp outsiders convert newbies via MQM recalculation and whamo - they told ya so - more MUDdallions
GG (Jan 27, 2003 11:20:22 PM)
Spiff! Hi! (I can't see when people enter because my Word window covers too much)
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 11:20:28 PM)
We're buying ads all over the place.. how many thousands you in for?
Spiff (Jan 27, 2003 11:20:33 PM)
aloha Deltans
Spiff (Jan 27, 2003 11:20:37 PM)
hi GG
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 11:20:51 PM)
Spiff thanks for the 1 grand contribution
bareflanks (Jan 27, 2003 11:20:56 PM)
who is collecting and how much do you want
BWIPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 11:20:58 PM)
"Delta decision-makers: We're being treated well by your competitors. --Your previously loyal SkyMiles members "
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 11:20:59 PM)
Per month!
Spiff (Jan 27, 2003 11:21:02 PM)
the Assman episode is on Seinfeld :)
Spiff (Jan 27, 2003 11:21:10 PM)
Make it 2 grand
Spiff (Jan 27, 2003 11:21:19 PM)
they accept Delta dollars, right?
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:21:20 PM)
I practice with him
bareflanks (Jan 27, 2003 11:21:22 PM)
realistically
RVBOOS (Jan 27, 2003 11:21:23 PM)
But, should I bother getting comped now if i'm going to ride out 2003?
kazman (Jan 27, 2003 11:21:31 PM)
Agree - just flew BizDelite - jfk-lax- awful
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:21:32 PM)
no
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:21:38 PM)
don't get comped yet
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 11:21:41 PM)
Folks, let's meet again on Wed at 9PM. I will start a thread on the DL board that everyone is free to contribute to detailing thoughts expressed tonight. Eyefly, work on the mobile guy. Can anyone living in ATL check on rates for a all news radio station?
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:21:52 PM)
if you will retain status on DL wait till the end of 2003
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:22:04 PM)
Will do Rss
bdschobel (Jan 27, 2003 11:22:07 PM)
OK, I need to get a few hours sleep before my 5 a.m. train! Good night, all.
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 11:22:16 PM)
BYE Bruce
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:22:17 PM)
night bruce
bareflanks (Jan 27, 2003 11:22:26 PM)
Hasta la byby
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:22:40 PM)
anyway this was fun
RVBOOS (Jan 27, 2003 11:22:54 PM)
sorry I just caught the end, bet it was great
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:22:58 PM)
it would be more so if we just met socially not to fix what wasn't broken
LexPassenger (Jan 27, 2003 11:23:07 PM)
Last big hurrah at the frat house, eh?
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:23:10 PM)
it was interesting
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:23:12 PM)
yeah
stockmanjr (Jan 27, 2003 11:23:22 PM)
have u guys figured out the billboard yet?
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:23:25 PM)
still incredulous
jeffreyt (Jan 27, 2003 11:23:29 PM)
I really hope we can accompolish something.
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:23:33 PM)
I hope so too
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 11:23:35 PM)
GTG, would everyone please add their input to the thread I will start on DL board?
jeffreyt (Jan 27, 2003 11:23:41 PM)
Bye all.
stockmanjr (Jan 27, 2003 11:23:43 PM)
show how much of an idiot uncle leo and his cronies are?
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:23:46 PM)
you guys are the best part of DL
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:23:47 PM)
night all
lofly (Jan 27, 2003 11:23:51 PM)
wednesday nite at what time?
Spiff (Jan 27, 2003 11:24:00 PM)
9p EST
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:24:01 PM)
9 or 10?
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:24:06 PM)
I think we said 9
Spiff (Jan 27, 2003 11:24:09 PM)
I will try to stop by
bareflanks (Jan 27, 2003 11:24:13 PM)
goodnight from the frozen north
EyeFlyDoc (Jan 27, 2003 11:24:14 PM)
but Rss will post
Rssrsvp (Jan 27, 2003 11:24:15 PM)
let's meet again on Wed at 9PM. I will start a thread on the DL board that everyone is free to contribute to detailing thoughts expressed tonight. Eyefly, work on the mobile guy. Can anyone living in ATL check on rates for a all news radio station?Good night and thanks to everyone for their help
